27 March 2018 Transport Group Meeting : Agenda

Avebury Parish Council

A meeting of the Transport Group Committee will be held at 7:30pm on Tuesday 27th March 2018 at the Social Centre, Avebury SN8 1RF.

All members of the public and press are welcome to attend.

Liz Moore, Clerk to Avebury Parish Council, 22 March 2018

Agenda

  1. Apologies for absence
  2. Welcome to new members
  3. Declarations of interest
  4. Acceptance of minutes of 19th February 2018
  5. Matters arising from the minutes
  6. Footpaths including:
    1. Update from Tim Lewis on wayposts
    2. Dog fouling update
  7. Output from exhibition and next steps
    1. Avebury Trusloe
    2. A4 scheme at Beckhampton
    3. A4 scheme at West Kennett
    4. The Avenue
    5. Green Street
    6. High Street
    7. Footpaths
    8. Other issues raised
  8. Any other business
  9. Date of next meeting

 

19 February 2018 Transport Group Meeting : Agenda

Avebury Parish Council

A meeting of the Transport Group Committee will be held at 7:30pm on Monday 19th February 2018 at the Social Centre, Avebury SN8 1RF.

All members of the public and press are welcome to attend.

Liz Moore, Clerk to Avebury Parish Council, 9 February 2018

Agenda

  1. Apologies for absence
  2. Declarations of interest
  3. Acceptance of minutes of 16th January 2018
  4. Matters arising from the minutes
  5. Footpaths including:
    1. Update on wayposts
    2. Dog fouling
  6. Progress on proposed exhibition in March. Finalising the flyer, content and date for the exhibition
  7. Any other business
  8. Date of next meeting

 

 

16 January 2018 Transport Group Committee : Minutes

Minutes of the 16th January 2018 Transport Group Committee
Avebury Parish Council

Held at 7:30pm on Tuesday 16th January 2018 at the Social Centre, Avebury SN8 1RF.
Present – M Bedford (Chairman), A Williamson, S Stacey, T Lewis, R Macaire, J Campbell

1. Apologies for absence:  Moya Brennan, Angela Norman, Liz Moore.
2. Declarations of interest: none
3. Acceptance of minutes of 30th November 2017: accepted as is
4. Matters arising from the minutes: none that are not on the minutes
5. Visitor parking in the High Street and Green Street including coaches: taken off this group as it is APC level and is on Feb agenda for the Parish Council
6. Footpaths including:
a. Report by Tim Lewis on footpath signage
1. Proposal at stakeholders group at WHS suggests the wooden posts be replaced around the village for £5711 (14 signposts, all oak, guaranteed for 20 years) which includes £750 for an archaeologist on site. TL suggested that waymarking should be preferred over branding signs. Proposal from T Lewis discussed and appreciation for the work noted. WHSC has passed this on to Helen Miah to move this project forwards and discuss next steps. Funding sources not clear but North Wessex Downs, Sustrans and MAB could be approached. This may be more successful if APC were to provide seed money.  Proposed that the transport group approaches the Parish Council for a £1000 donation to use as a lever to garner additional money from the other organisations. If the Parish agrees then TL and other(s) to put together plan to implement the plan including fundraising.
b. Resurfacing footpath 22
1. Sustrans have been approached by Liz Moore last week but no response so far. Wiltshire Council have it on their books for next financial year (ie 2019)
7. Progress on exhibition re transport and travel in the parish and finalization of programme.  Potential for survey of traffic in the Avenue?
a. Amendments to document suggested and agreed and volunteers to distribute noted. Question of timing and how to show the information that we have. Should be run all day but over the evening as well. Would be good to include WC and transport personnel from WC as well as WHS. Open at 4pm for viewing and have presentations from stakeholders later in the evening  – eg 18:30. Vertical boards with space for comments suggested. We should include in the document to be circulated a headline that there will be a follow up meeting to present the conclusions and recommendations
b. Topics to be covered
1. Achievements of the transport group so far – Transport Plan central to whole
2. A4 – W Kennett and Beckhampton
3. Trusloe – Parking  and speeding
4. Yellow lines
5. Footpaths and Byways
6. The future of the Avenue
7. Eroding verges  – Green street and The Avenue
Recognised that items 2-7 which emanate from item 1 needs to follow a standard template – eg Problem/issue, consequences, potential solutions and outcomes.
Exhibition Meeting set on 7th March at the Social Centre at 16:00-20:00.
8. Any other business: eroding verges in Green Street have been reported in MyWiltshire by S Stacey but probably not the relevant place to get a response. S Stacey to approach S Simmonds and Martin Cook re the verges to see if there is an WHS or WC response respectively.
9. Date of next meeting: 8th Feb 19:30 to address preparation for the exhibition as the sole item on the agenda.

Meeting adjourned 2045

16 January 2018 Transport Group Committee Meeting : Agenda

Avebury Parish Council

A meeting of the Transport Group Committee will be held at 7:30pm on Tuesday 16th January 2018 at the Social Centre, Avebury SN8 1RF.

All members of the public and press are welcome to attend.

Liz Moore, Clerk to Avebury Parish Council, 10th January 2018.

Agenda

  1. Apologies for absence
  2. Declarations of interest
  3. Acceptance of minutes of 30th November 2017
  4. Matters arising from the minutes
  5. Progress on exhibition re transport and travel in the Parish and finalization of exhibition programme. Potential for survey of traffic in the Avenue
  6. Visitor parking in the High Street and Green Street including coaches
  7. Footpaths including:
    1. Report by Tim Lewis on footpath signage
    2. Resurfacing footpath 22 (Church Walk – Bray Street) and footpath 30 (main car park – High Street)
  8. Fundraising ideas
  9. Any other business
  10. Date of next meeting

 

 

30 November 2017 Transport Group Meeting : Minutes

Minutes of the 30th Nov 2017 Transport Group Committee

Avebury Parish Council

Held at 7:30pm on Thursday 30th November 2017 at the Social Centre, Avebury SN8 1RF.

Present – M Bedford (Chairman), A Williamson, S Stacey, A Norman, R Macaire.

  1. Apologies for absence: Tim Lewis, Liz Moore, Moya Brennan.
  2. Declarations of interest: None.
  3. Acceptance of minutes of 5 June 2017 and to acknowledge 10 August 2017 meeting notes: Accepted as read for 5th June and 10 August received.
  4. Matters arising from the minutes: No matters arising that are not already on the agenda.
  5. Progress report on A4 Traffic Calming Project and meeting with Atkins on 16 November: Rob Macaire, Sarah Simmonds, Andrew Williamson, Steve Hind and Nat Trust representative. Most of the meeting focussed on the A4 at W Kennett as Atkins feel the proposal made in their WHS plan is not workable. New plans produced by Atkins presented at meeting by A Williamson. One issue is that with the reduction in width of the carriageway (see plan 001) the footpath approaching the E Kennett road from the west on the south side of the carriageway is substandard, and the other is that with no ghost turn to the Avenue the sight lines for following west-bound drivers on the A4 are not long enough for safe turning onto the Avenue. The footpath is not a game changer but the Avenue is. The solution offered by Atkins (see plan 002) was to put the footpath only on the south side with no crossings or narrowing of the road and it was agreed that such a solution was not wanted by anyone. Solution of putting in a speed limit with reduced carriageway and footpath with no ghost turn rejected by Wilts Council on safety grounds. The meeting concluded that closing the Avenue would be the only solution which would enable the implementation of the full plans. Wiltshire Highways to continue with Beckhampton scheme.
  6. Avenue Closure including pros and cons template and traffic flow data from Wiltshire Council: Linkage of Avenue closure to W Kennett work noted and discussion centred on how to capture all views in the community on the Avenue so that a factual and fair document could be produced. Also noted that there is more than a binary solution, eg it could be that the Avenue is closed for an experimental time period, or a gate is present but not locked, or the Avenue is open only during set hours. We agreed that we had no recommendation to make at present and instead proposed to create an exhibition to gather all information on the Avenue, W Kennett and Beckhampton to enable us to inform the parish and community of what options and considerations exist for all these schemes. This should include Wilts Council (S Hind) and WHS (S Simmonds). We would draft a document and circulate within the group for approval prior to sending out to the community as an information and inquiry note. Committee then to set a date for an exhibition or information exchange entitled “Traffic in Avebury” or something similar to cover not only the Avenue as described above but also the WHS transport plans, yellow lines, speeding, possible footpath within new 30mph limit on Swindon Road etc. with the goal of gaining feedback and prioritisation of the issues at hand.
  7. Results of double yellow lines and speeding questionnaire sent to Avebury Trusloe residents: Responses from 5 persons on renewing/extending yellow lines in Trusloe, Frog Lane and Green St suggesting that none were in support and if anything they would make things worse.
  8. Speed monitoring through Avebury and Avebury Trusloe including request for SIDs for the A4361 Swindon road: Survey said several areas may suffer speeding but worst place is the A4361 at exit from Trusloe with 1 comment regarding the main road in Trusloe itself. Awaiting further direction as to where the problem exists. SIDs no longer offered and as the A4361 is a NSL it would not apply.
  9. Influx of articulated lorries and HGV’s using A4361 Swindon road at all hours: No action but noted that high friction strips in W Monkton are likely to be removed thus reducing the noise pollution that instigated the complaint.
  10. Visitor parking in the High Street and Green Street including coaches: Awaiting response to APC enquiries.
  11. Footpaths including:
    1. Report by Tim Lewis on footpath signage:

      “I put together a paper setting out the background of the project to standardise all the footpath signage in the WHS, and giving the estimated cost of the first phase, which would be the replacement of all the existing oak signs in Avebury, in early October. This was refined by Sarah Simmonds and presented by her to the meeting of the Steering Committee stakeholders of the WHS on 19th October. They came to the conclusion that there was some work to do around looking at the signage from a conservation point of view, identifying where they wish to encourage walkers to go, and where they continue to need signage. The National Trust is involved in signage refreshment across the organisation and this will need to be taken into consideration as well. Sarah has a new assistant starting at the end of November, and she will ask her to set up a meeting with me and stakeholders’ representatives to review the aims of the project and identify the necessary next steps.”

    2. Resurfacing footpath 22: Still in the plans and apparently will be done end of this financial year.

    3. Changing the footpath between Silbury Hill and Beckhampton into a circular route: Noted that APC has closed this even though it is sympathetic to the needs.

    4. Creating a new footpath adjacent to A4361 from Avebury towards Swindon and within the newly extended 30 mph zone: No action taken so far – plans to be developed to include in the exhibition and prioritised.
    5. Creating a new footpath adjacent to A4 from Gunsite Road to the Avenue: Part of the WHS plan and current W Kennett scheme.

  12. Fundraising ideas: No new ideas noted.
  13. Village signage audit: Scheme overview 1.1 from WHS plan needs to be reviewed with S Simmonds to decide what should be done.
  14. Any other business: None.
  15. Date of next meeting: Tuesday 16th January 2018.

30 November 2017 Transport Group Committee Meeting : Agenda

Avebury Parish Council

A meeting of the Transport Group Committee will be held at 7:30pm on Thursday 30 November 2017 at the Social Centre, Avebury SN8 1RF.

All members of the public and press are welcome to attend.

Liz Moore, Clerk to Avebury Parish Council, 24th November 2017.

Agenda

  1. Apologies for absence
  2. Declarations of interest
  3. Acceptance of minutes of 5 June 2017 and to acknowledge 10 August 2017 meeting notes.
  4. Matters arising from the minutes
  5. Progress report on A4 Traffic Calming Project and meeting with Atkins on 16 November
  6. Avenue Closure including pros and cons template and traffic flow data from Wiltshire Council
  7. Results of double yellow lines and speeding questionnaire sent to Avebury Trusloe residents
  8. Speed monitoring through Avebury and Avebury Trusloe including request for SIDs for the A4361 Swindon road
  9. Influx of articulated lorries and HGV’s using A4361 Swindon road at all hours
  10. Visitor parking in the High Street and Green Street including coaches
  11. Interim solutions to parking on Nursery Site [to be informed by Housing Needs Survey]
  12. Footpaths including:
    1. Report by Tim Lewis on footpath signage
    2. Resurfacing footpath 22
    3. Changing the footpath between Silbury Hill and Beckhampton into a circular route
    4. Creating a new footpath adjacent to A4361 from Avebury towards Swindon and within the newly extended 30 mph zone
    5. Creating a new footpath adjacent to A4 from Gunsite Road to the Avenue
  13. Fundraising ideas
  14. Village signage audit
  15. Any other business
  16. Date of next meeting

5 June 2017 Transport Group : Minutes

Minutes of the 5 June 2017 Transport Group Committee

Avebury Parish Council

Held at 7:30pm on Monday 5 June 2017 at the Social Centre, Avebury SN8 1RF.

Present: M Brennan, D Brotheridge. R Macaire, S.Stacey, M Bedford, A Williamson.

  1. Apologies for absence: Apologies from T Lewis and L Moore
  2. Declarations of interest: None
  3. Acceptance of minutes of 19th April 2017: Accepted
  4. Actions from minutes:
      1. Update WHS Atkins progression : MB had telephone call with S Hind June 1st. SH has had several discussions with Atkins.  Atkins claim there are no issues with Beckhampton but potentially several with W Kennett and so want to separate them as projects.  SH has confirmed to Atkins that both go together  and is meeting to identify sticking points on W Kennett before calling for a meeting with MB and RM to discuss what compromises if any need to be made.This iterative approach is to minimise costs. He noted the individual responsible for the original plans and the current are meeting with him at the same time as there appears to be some differencing in opinion between these individuals which he wants to iron out before we meet as a group.  MB/SH to update in 2 weeks. Noted that the cyclothon has markedly raised the profile of transport in the WHS.
      2. Double Yellow Lines in Avebury Trusloe and Speed limit in Trusloe. Email trail with J Campbell suggests that community should be polled to check if these issues are live and if so where the lines/speed checks should be conducted.  Questionnaire is proposed for dropping in Trusloe to gauge the interest in each of these issues
      3. Footpath 22. Issue has been logged on Wiltshire County site. Details as of 2nd June 2017 are that it has been reassigned to the Highways SERVICE REQUEST #       CATEGORY    Public Rights of Way MB to Reactivate the proposal from J THomson re re-surfacing in financial year 16/17 by writing to J Davies and asking if this can be elevated.
  5. Actions from Village meeting: (a) Interim solutions for parking on Nursery Site .Can gravel be placed over the Nursery Site to prevent the grass from becoming a quagmire.  Problem is that there would have to be matting or gravel over the Centurion owned land so that cars could gain access to the current parking area. Not clear if Centurion are interested in giving us rights of access let alone to put rubber matting over their land to create a car parch access for 7-8 cars. Agreed that the first step should be to investigate potential costs of such matting first to determine if this is feasible first then report back. (b) Speed monitoring through Avebury and Avebury Trusloe – see item 4.b above.
  6. Footpaths: report by Tim Lewis. Report submitted. Lots of detail and total costs identified as 14k for replacing all posts with Oak and installing them. Paper will be presented at October meeting to review the practicalities of the various segments of the whole plan. Ultimately funding will be an issue. Idea of non commercial sponsored posts with donator in the upright routed in rather than inked suggested by MBrennan as a means to part fund the process.
  7. Cyclothon for fundraising – Moya B cycled a total of 298  miles over 3 days and raised £568.Discussion as to whether it is going to be an annual event.  Additional ideas for next year including advertising more with locals and involving local schools to guess the distances before hand, colouring in etc,more sponge throwing etc etc. Idea of a calendar for the transport group to sell in the Henge/Village shop.  Suggested that discussion of potential ideas for next cyclothon should go on the agenda for October to December meeting.
  8. Avenue Closure
    1. The village meeting addressed this and it has gone to the WH Committee who want an evidence based proposal.
    2. Way forward – Transport group could develop a template to highlight the pros and cons of closure. Once this template is completed then the data to support or refute these issues needs to be gathered.
      Pros Cons
      Presevation of verges and historic artifacts

      Tranquility in Avenue

      Reduced danger

      Busses actually go through Beckhampton en route to Swindon

      Enhanced cyclepath 45/safer

      Increased travel time to Swindon

      Increased A4 traffic through Beckhampton and past Avebury Trusloe

       

      Also need to get traffic flow data from Wiltshire Council.

  9. Any other business: points to consider for next meeting agenda:
      1. Footpath between Silbury Hill and Beckhampton to make a circular route.
      2. Footpath from Avebury towards Swindon towards Dorwyn Manor. At present only alternative is to walk on the road.
      3. Similarly from Gunsite Road eastwards there is only the A4 to walk on to gain access to the Avenue.
  10. Date of next meeting: 10th August 2017, 19:30 at the social centre