30 November 2017 Transport Group Meeting : Minutes

Minutes of the 30th Nov 2017 Transport Group Committee

Avebury Parish Council

Held at 7:30pm on Thursday 30th November 2017 at the Social Centre, Avebury SN8 1RF.

Present – M Bedford (Chairman), A Williamson, S Stacey, A Norman, R Macaire.

  1. Apologies for absence: Tim Lewis, Liz Moore, Moya Brennan.
  2. Declarations of interest: None.
  3. Acceptance of minutes of 5 June 2017 and to acknowledge 10 August 2017 meeting notes: Accepted as read for 5th June and 10 August received.
  4. Matters arising from the minutes: No matters arising that are not already on the agenda.
  5. Progress report on A4 Traffic Calming Project and meeting with Atkins on 16 November: Rob Macaire, Sarah Simmonds, Andrew Williamson, Steve Hind and Nat Trust representative. Most of the meeting focussed on the A4 at W Kennett as Atkins feel the proposal made in their WHS plan is not workable. New plans produced by Atkins presented at meeting by A Williamson. One issue is that with the reduction in width of the carriageway (see plan 001) the footpath approaching the E Kennett road from the west on the south side of the carriageway is substandard, and the other is that with no ghost turn to the Avenue the sight lines for following west-bound drivers on the A4 are not long enough for safe turning onto the Avenue. The footpath is not a game changer but the Avenue is. The solution offered by Atkins (see plan 002) was to put the footpath only on the south side with no crossings or narrowing of the road and it was agreed that such a solution was not wanted by anyone. Solution of putting in a speed limit with reduced carriageway and footpath with no ghost turn rejected by Wilts Council on safety grounds. The meeting concluded that closing the Avenue would be the only solution which would enable the implementation of the full plans. Wiltshire Highways to continue with Beckhampton scheme.
  6. Avenue Closure including pros and cons template and traffic flow data from Wiltshire Council: Linkage of Avenue closure to W Kennett work noted and discussion centred on how to capture all views in the community on the Avenue so that a factual and fair document could be produced. Also noted that there is more than a binary solution, eg it could be that the Avenue is closed for an experimental time period, or a gate is present but not locked, or the Avenue is open only during set hours. We agreed that we had no recommendation to make at present and instead proposed to create an exhibition to gather all information on the Avenue, W Kennett and Beckhampton to enable us to inform the parish and community of what options and considerations exist for all these schemes. This should include Wilts Council (S Hind) and WHS (S Simmonds). We would draft a document and circulate within the group for approval prior to sending out to the community as an information and inquiry note. Committee then to set a date for an exhibition or information exchange entitled “Traffic in Avebury” or something similar to cover not only the Avenue as described above but also the WHS transport plans, yellow lines, speeding, possible footpath within new 30mph limit on Swindon Road etc. with the goal of gaining feedback and prioritisation of the issues at hand.
  7. Results of double yellow lines and speeding questionnaire sent to Avebury Trusloe residents: Responses from 5 persons on renewing/extending yellow lines in Trusloe, Frog Lane and Green St suggesting that none were in support and if anything they would make things worse.
  8. Speed monitoring through Avebury and Avebury Trusloe including request for SIDs for the A4361 Swindon road: Survey said several areas may suffer speeding but worst place is the A4361 at exit from Trusloe with 1 comment regarding the main road in Trusloe itself. Awaiting further direction as to where the problem exists. SIDs no longer offered and as the A4361 is a NSL it would not apply.
  9. Influx of articulated lorries and HGV’s using A4361 Swindon road at all hours: No action but noted that high friction strips in W Monkton are likely to be removed thus reducing the noise pollution that instigated the complaint.
  10. Visitor parking in the High Street and Green Street including coaches: Awaiting response to APC enquiries.
  11. Footpaths including:
    1. Report by Tim Lewis on footpath signage:

      “I put together a paper setting out the background of the project to standardise all the footpath signage in the WHS, and giving the estimated cost of the first phase, which would be the replacement of all the existing oak signs in Avebury, in early October. This was refined by Sarah Simmonds and presented by her to the meeting of the Steering Committee stakeholders of the WHS on 19th October. They came to the conclusion that there was some work to do around looking at the signage from a conservation point of view, identifying where they wish to encourage walkers to go, and where they continue to need signage. The National Trust is involved in signage refreshment across the organisation and this will need to be taken into consideration as well. Sarah has a new assistant starting at the end of November, and she will ask her to set up a meeting with me and stakeholders’ representatives to review the aims of the project and identify the necessary next steps.”

    2. Resurfacing footpath 22: Still in the plans and apparently will be done end of this financial year.

    3. Changing the footpath between Silbury Hill and Beckhampton into a circular route: Noted that APC has closed this even though it is sympathetic to the needs.

    4. Creating a new footpath adjacent to A4361 from Avebury towards Swindon and within the newly extended 30 mph zone: No action taken so far – plans to be developed to include in the exhibition and prioritised.
    5. Creating a new footpath adjacent to A4 from Gunsite Road to the Avenue: Part of the WHS plan and current W Kennett scheme.

  12. Fundraising ideas: No new ideas noted.
  13. Village signage audit: Scheme overview 1.1 from WHS plan needs to be reviewed with S Simmonds to decide what should be done.
  14. Any other business: None.
  15. Date of next meeting: Tuesday 16th January 2018.